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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming DNREC Public Hearings- firearms possession
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 5:33 pm 
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ding ding ding... round 2. (probably 7 or 8, considering the lower court rulings before delsc)

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since the december ruling, is there anyone who didn't think they'd go down swinging?


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 7:15 pm 
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Yeah I think it was pretty obvious from the public workshops that they had no intention of going down silently. They're going to try to find every little inch they can possibly get past the courts, especially in the money-making areas of parks that frequently have out-of-staters visiting who aren't acclimated to seeing guns carried around (NY, NJ, MD, etc).

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:32 am 
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Yeah, I just got an emailed letter from DSSA about another lawsuit. DNREC should be held liable for all expenses for time and money wasted in this bullcrap! Oh wait... that's our $$ their slinging around.... :poed:

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I went to Ommelanden Wednesday. They put up signs at the entrance to the cashier and range that said essentially no open carry inside but if you have a CCDW then fine. They added a "chamber check" station out side the range where you placed your rifle in a big can then opened the action to show clear. It was pretty easy. They also relaxed the rule to now while shooting, a full 30 rnd mag for a rifle was fine and 17 for a pistol.

I open carried on the property then locked up my pistol in the trunk before going in to the cashier and left it there while at the range.

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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming DNREC Public Hearings- firearms possession
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:33 pm 
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surprised they didn't have a sign at the door of the range.

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I went to Ommelanden Wednesday. They put up signs at the entrance to the cashier and range that said essentially no open carry inside but if you have a CCDW then fine. They added a "chamber check" station out side the range where you placed your rifle in a big can then opened the action to show clear. It was pretty easy. They also relaxed the rule to now while shooting, a full 30 rnd mag for a rifle was fine and 17 for a pistol.

I open carried on the property then locked up my pistol in the trunk before going in to the cashier and left it there while at the range.


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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming DNREC Public Hearings- firearms possession
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I'll have to check if I go again.

I remember a specific white 8.5x11 paper sign on the cashier door but I don't specifically recall seeing it at the range entrance.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:44 am 
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i was being just a little bit sarcastic. ;)

given the new a2a stuff going on these days, i was jokingly implying that the range building would be called a sensitive place under the new rules. no guns allowed.

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I'll have to check if I go again.

I remember a specific white 8.5x11 paper sign on the cashier door but I don't specifically recall seeing it at the range entrance.


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:lol:
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i was being just a little bit sarcastic. ;)

given the new a2a stuff going on these days, i was jokingly implying that the range building would be called a sensitive place under the new rules. no guns allowed.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:45 pm 
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Victory for the 2A!!!!

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Delaware judge nixes agency regulations on guns in parks
Oct 11th, 2018 · by Randall Chase/Associated Press · Comments: 1
DOVER — A Delaware judge on Thursday struck down some regulations on carrying guns in state parks and on state forest land, saying they are unconstitutional.
The ruling comes in a lawsuit by the Delaware State Sportsmen’s Association and other gun rights advocates challenging firearms regulations developed by the Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Control, and the state Department of Agriculture.
The two agencies began developing the regulations after the Delaware Supreme Court ruled last year that a ban on non-hunting firearms in state parks and forests was unconstitutional.
Among other things, the regulations prohibit people from openly carrying firearms in certain designated “sensitive” areas of state parks and forests, such as offices and visitor centers, while exempting people with valid concealed carry permits from that prohibition.
Current and retired law enforcement officers also were allowed to carry guns anywhere on park and forest land, but other visitors could carry openly firearms within designated areas only upon written application showing “good cause” related to self-defense or the defense of family.

On Thursday, Superior Court Judge Jeffrey Clark ruled that some of the regulations go too far, violating both the federal and state constitutions.
Clark sided with the plaintiffs in ruling that officials cannot prohibit visitors from carrying guns in camping areas in parks and lodges on forest land. He noted that the Supreme Court specifically held that a person has a constitutional right to have a firearm while camping overnight in a state park.
“The effect of including camp sites within sensitive areas forces state park and forest visitors to give up their right to self-defense in order to camp overnight in those areas,” Clark wrote.
The judge also said regulations that allow a law enforcement official to confront a person carrying a gun and demand identification so that authorities can conduct a background check are unconstitutional as written if the official has no reasonable suspicion that the person is engaged in illegal activity. Demands for someone to produce a concealed carry permit absent reasonable suspicion of illegal activity are similarly unconstitutional, the judge said.
“It is in essence a ‘show me your papers’ provision that facially does not pass state or federal constitutional muster,” Clark wrote.
The judge also ruled that environmental and agriculture officials have no discretion to decide whether an out-of-state visitor with a concealed carry permit can be allowed to carry a concealed weapon on Delaware park or forest land. Clark noted that Delaware’s attorney general has sole authority to issue temporary concealed carry permits and to determine which states receive reciprocity from Delaware regarding such permits.
On the other hand, the judge ruled, park and forest officials do have the authority to issue “day passes” allowing a people to openly carry firearms in areas that would otherwise be off-limits if a person can demonstrate good cause for doing so.
State officials did not immediately respond to email messages seeking comment on the ruling.
Randall Chase writes for the Associated Press

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 Post subject: Re: Upcoming DNREC Public Hearings- firearms possession
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:25 pm 
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http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/agop ... tCarry.pdf

the regs are marked up in here, down at the bottom. still a little concerned about a few parts, but overall, pretty good.


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