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School Zone

PostPosted:Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:39 pm
by steve morgan
Hi all, I have a question. What is the distance of a "School Zone" Thanks, Steve

Re: School Zone

PostPosted:Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:07 pm
by Strelok
1,000 feet from the grounds of a public, parochial or private school.

Re: School Zone

PostPosted:Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:25 pm
by josephjanes
Includes colleges and universities - read Tile 11, Sec. 1457 for full text and definitions
i.e. Delaware Code, Title 11, Section 1457.

Re: School Zone

PostPosted:Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:18 pm
by de774
I am new to this site. As far as the school zone goes the 1000 feet of of a school zone I am about 500 feet from school zone so what would be my options for open carry?

Re: School Zone

PostPosted:Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:22 pm
by dean
de774 wrote:I am new to this site. As far as the school zone goes the 1000 feet of of a school zone I am about 500 feet from school zone so what would be my options for open carry?
Do you mean you live about 500ft from a school zone or that you have to travel a public route that's within 500ft of a school zone?

Re: School Zone

PostPosted:Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:01 pm
by de774
Yes I live about 500 feet from a grade school

Re: School Zone

PostPosted:Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:02 pm
by astro_wanabe
de774 wrote:I am new to this site. As far as the school zone goes the 1000 feet of of a school zone I am about 500 feet from school zone so what would be my options for open carry?
Welcome. Unfortunately, while the state-level law is only an "add-on" type of charge if you commit certain crimes within the zone, the Fed law is an absolute prohibition with a few listed exemptions. Amongst these are things like being on private property or having a license to carry the firearm from the state you're physically in. Unlicensed carry on public property like a street doesn't really fit any of the exemptions. One option would be to get a CCDW.

Re: School Zone

PostPosted:Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:18 pm
by NormH3
astro_wanabe wrote:
de774 wrote:I am new to this site. As far as the school zone goes the 1000 feet of of a school zone I am about 500 feet from school zone so what would be my options for open carry?
Welcome. Unfortunately, while the state-level law is only an "add-on" type of charge if you commit certain crimes within the zone, the Fed law is an absolute prohibition with a few listed exemptions. Amongst these are things like being on private property or having a license to carry the firearm from the state you're physically in. Unlicensed carry on public property like a street doesn't really fit any of the exemptions. One option would be to get a CCDW.
That brings up an interesting question. If all law abiding citizens in the State of Delaware are allowed (licensed if you will) to open carry a firearm, how can you be charged while driving within 1000 feet of a school zone? Furthermore, if the U of D is included, that would mean you wouldn't be able to open carry within the City of Newark. This stuff makes my head spin.

Re: School Zone

PostPosted:Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:21 am
by Kuntryboy816
NormH3 wrote:That brings up an interesting question. If all law abiding citizens in the State of Delaware are allowed (licensed if you will) to open carry a firearm, how can you be charged while driving within 1000 feet of a school zone? Furthermore, if the U of D is included, that would mean you wouldn't be able to open carry within the City of Newark. This stuff makes my head spin.
Interesting quandry! How can you be charged or even have the added charge (at the state level) if you're legally allowed to OC??

Re: School Zone

PostPosted:Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:12 pm
by astro_wanabe
NormH3 wrote: That brings up an interesting question. If all law abiding citizens in the State of Delaware are allowed (licensed if you will) to open carry a firearm, how can you be charged while driving within 1000 feet of a school zone? Furthermore, if the U of D is included, that would mean you wouldn't be able to open carry within the City of Newark. This stuff makes my head spin.
I think there's a big difference between something being de facto lawful because there's no law against it (also no law expressly allowing it), and the state taking specific action to review an application, investigate, and issue a license for something. The fed law exemption in question [18 U.S. Code § 922(q)(2)(B)(ii)] requires that the issuing authority "verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license." Nobody verifies that we are allowed to OC and gives us a license before we do so - we just do it.

Also for the fed law the definition of a school zone is:
18 U.S. Code § 921(a)(25) The term “school zone” means—
(A) in, or on the grounds of, a public, parochial or private school; or
(B) within a distance of 1,000 feet from the grounds of a public, parochial or private school.

(26) The term “school” means a school which provides elementary or secondary education, as determined under State law.
so it doesn't apply to post-secondary colleges / universities, like UD in Newark. The state level Safe School and Recreation Zone does but as already noted that isn't a complete prohibition on possession / carry, just an add on charge if you commit certain crimes in the zone.