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 Post subject: C&R disposal of guns you dont want for collection
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:20 pm 
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I want to make sure I understand this. As a C&R you can sell guns that you dont want for your collection to people. If I get a C&R and buy say 4 sks to see which one I like best and keep one do I have to run a background check or use an ffl in delaware to get rid of the other 3?

Also what info would need to be recorded in this book I have been told I will have to keep. Thanks in advance guys.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:07 pm 
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C&R isn't a dealer's license, so you can't buy anything without it meeting C&R requirements. You also don't have access to NICS. Nor can you engage in "business"...it's a collector's license. Alot of guys think it's a loophole...they find out at inspection time it's not. And if you buy 4 items and sell three, at your inspection, the BATFE agent isn't going to like that at all, and will have issue with you functioning as a dealer.

Most FFLs are funny about dealing with C&R holders (myself included) other than FTF, as there is no way to verify a C&R like you can an 01,06,07.


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scottese wrote:
C&R isn't a dealer's license, so you can't buy anything without it meeting C&R requirements. You also don't have access to NICS. Nor can you engage in "business"...it's a collector's license. Alot of guys think it's a loophole...they find out at inspection time it's not. And if you buy 4 items and sell three, at your inspection, the BATFE agent isn't going to like that at all, and will have issue with you functioning as a dealer.

Most FFLs are funny about dealing with C&R holders (myself included) other than FTF, as there is no way to verify a C&R like you can an 01,06,07.


I am aware of what its for ( per you actually) I was using that a for instance because I figure that for a collection you want the best specimen. If you get a couple extra and keep the best one what is wrong with getting rid of what you dont want? If it makes it easier lets say I buy two of every gun andkeep the better one but only 3 sales a year if that

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:48 am 
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Contact the ATF...in writing. You will get a written response. I would say to make sure you are not profiting from the other sales, then it could never be misconstrued as business dealings. Contrary to the belief of some :roll: the purpose of business is to make money. I would say lose $5 a piece to be sure.

Not sure why wouldn't you just pay the "hand pick fee" that alot of the places that frequently offer C&R stuff charge. Same exact thing you would be doing without increasing shipping, and the PITA of disposing the surplus (at a loss preferably). So you are actually going to save tiome and money that way. What you are talking about doing doesn't make sense to me. And FWIW [url]ALL[/url] of the "hand picked" stuff that I have seen come through me has been pretty nice...the stuff that wasn't, was "luck of the draw"...meaning you might still end up with none that are nice.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:23 pm 
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Thanks scott

I actually saw that at one place on sks rifles. It was a bit extra, but will save me the headache I dont want or need.

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