Login    
   
   
    Register FAQ  •  Search    

· Home ·   Forums ·  Who Are We? ·  What is Open Carry? ·  CCDW Process ·  FAQ ·  Contact ·  Terms ·

Fundraiser to Support Delaware Open Carry!


We've come to that time of the year when our server lease and domain name registrations are coming up for renewal. In the past, many of you have expressed your generosity in the form of donations in order to keep the site running - I'm asking for your support again this year.

Please visit our donation information page for more details and, if you enjoy this site, if you've ever attended our gatherings or, if this community has brought you some knowledge or entertainment, please give what you can to keep us going.

→ Donation Information Page ←


It is currently Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:25 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 35 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Testifying against Gun Control on April 17th
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:36 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:02 pm
Posts: 4164
Location: Pencader Hundred
Amy Blackthorn wrote:
Well, the news journal just put up their article on today.
Apparently the writer WASN'T EVEN IN THE SAME ROOM because, what?!
Out of the individuals present. (a few represented groups) 2 out if 70 were for this bill. The rest were against. They were so awed that :censored: Mark Kelly was there they all left after his five minute speech. Two hours of testimony later the rest of us left. Wtf.
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/2 ... um=twitter
Utter BS.

I liked this part of the article...
Quote:
Advocates of the bill were far outnumbered by opponents, who say the bill will not stop criminals from accessing firearms and will only make it harder for law-abiding citizens to buy a gun.

"There are already tens of thousands of laws on the books regarding firearms. Another law is not going to make any difference whatsoever," said Tim Bond, of Felton. "This bill or others will not stop a single criminal intent on getting a firearm."

_________________
-Boots
Have Gun—Will Travel

Si vis pacem, para bellum


 Profile  
 Post subject: Re: Testifying against Gun Control on April 17th
PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:02 pm
Posts: 4164
Location: Pencader Hundred
Amy Blackthorn wrote:
Even though they skipped me, my speech was written and I had it submitted into the written record to be read at the reading of the bill by the full Senate.
I wonder how many others didn't get to speak. Perhaps they had already accomodated all the pro-bill speakers and wanted to cut off the rest? The lack of any explanation naturally leads to a questioning of motives.

I just spent my time refuting some of the erroneous information presented in the remarks of the few Pro-bill speakers that were there, so I spoke extemporaneously.

Next time I go there I plan to have something written out so it can be turned in as you did. Also, having a pre-written presentation will make my delivery much smoother. I was surprised by the un-natural nervousness I felt while speaking there, but I hope I was able to get my points across..

_________________
-Boots
Have Gun—Will Travel

Si vis pacem, para bellum


 Profile  
 Post subject: Re: Testifying against Gun Control on April 17th
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:25 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:13 am
Posts: 162
I have found this to be true. As a former "Registered Agent" (Lobbyist) at the Delaware Legislature I have found that when there are hearings, such as it was the other day on HB35, the Democratic controlled committees always seem to get time to hear people that are supporting their mindset, and seem to lose the names or run out of time for those against their pre-decided conclusion. I understand everyone was suppose to get 2 minutes to speak, except Mark Kelly, who got at least 5 minutes and he is not a citizen of Delaware. Sc%$w him, what does an astronaut from Arizona, that is not a registered lobbyist, have to do with a proposed gun bill in Delaware. I feel these committee meetings are a sham, as the majority already has their minds made up and testifying against their position seldom does anything to change their minds.

_________________
I'd rather have a gun in my hand, that a cop on the phone.

I reserve the right to not be perfect.

I have my Jesus, my Bible and my gun, I don't need anything else.

Member NRA & DSSA

Kent County


 Profile  
 Post subject: Re: Testifying against Gun Control on April 17th
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:06 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:30 pm
Posts: 2159
Location: Newark, DE
You hours have seen the condescending looks on their faces. Shame really.

_________________
Amy
NRA Certified Firearms Instructor--Basic Pistol, Refuse to be a Victim
Justice Firearms Training
DECCDW PALTCF DESO

Tea, glorious tea!
http://blackthornhoodooblends.com/


 Profile  
 Post subject: Re: Testifying against Gun Control on April 17th
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:25 pm
Posts: 288
Location: Bear, DE
I have a bad feeling that all Markell's bills will pass regardless all our writing, calling to the state officials and giving testimonies in committees.
Honestly, since I move to Delaware 10 years ago, I was wondering how it is with overwhelming democratic majority through out the years in the state government we still have what we have in terms of gun laws. I don't want to sound pessimistic but I think we all (law abiding citizens) will get screwed this time around. I hope I'm wrong about this...

_________________
"An armed society is a polite society" - Robert A. Heinlein


 Profile  
 Post subject: Re: Testifying against Gun Control on April 17th
PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:45 pm 
Offline
Founding Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:13 pm
Posts: 4655
Location: Claymont.DE
Strelok wrote:
I was wondering how it is with overwhelming democratic majority through out the years in the state government we still have what we have in terms of gun laws.


That hasn't always been the case. Not too long ago the Republicans had control of one of the Houses of Congress. We also have had some Republican Governors too. Until recently many of the Democrats were of the 'blue dog' type. or DINO's. Even Carper, while he was governor, didn't touch the third rail. Same for Ruth Ann Miner.


Markell was the first governor to run on an anti 2A platform.

_________________
"The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." - Robert A. Heinlein
What a shame that we have the two major political parties that believe the former.


 Profile  
 Post subject: Re: Testifying against Gun Control on April 17th
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:59 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:19 pm
Posts: 1048
Location: New Castle, DE
Amy Blackthorn wrote:
Well, the news journal just put up their article on today.
Apparently the writer WASN'T EVEN IN THE SAME ROOM because, what?!
Out of the individuals present. (a few represented groups) 2 out if 70 were for this bill. The rest were against. They were so awed that :censored: Mark Kelly was there they all left after his five minute speech. Two hours of testimony later the rest of us left. Wtf.
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/2 ... um=twitter
Utter BS.


I do not claim to be an expert of the English language, but I detest reporters lacking basic language knowledge. The punctuation and grammar of this article is atrocious and the editor should be ashamed. I digress, this has become the norm of newspapers these days.

R.I.P. English; you were always my favorite language.

Back to the topic at hand:
I did not find the article to have a terrible anti-gun slant, as they typically do. I still read it, to a certain extent, as though the reporter had to force themselves to include the remark about this law not actually working. I do, however, have to wonder why a non-Delaware citizen was given time before a Delaware committee, or why he was given 250% more time than those affected by the law.

_________________
Basic Gun Safety by Jeff Cooper:
1) All guns are always loaded
2) Never let the muzzle cover anything you aren't willing to destroy
3) Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target
4) Be sure of your target and what is beyond it


 Profile  
 Post subject: Re: Testifying against Gun Control on April 17th
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:42 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:02 pm
Posts: 4164
Location: Pencader Hundred
MrCoolDale wrote:
... I do, however, have to wonder why a non-Delaware citizen was given time before a Delaware committee, or why he was given 250% more time than those affected by the law.
Democrats like "celebrities." And, it doesn't matter if they know anything about the subject or not. :kuku:

_________________
-Boots
Have Gun—Will Travel

Si vis pacem, para bellum


 Profile  
 Post subject: Re: Testifying against Gun Control on April 17th
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:02 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:43 am
Posts: 136
Location: Clayton
MrCoolDale wrote:
I do, however, have to wonder why a non-Delaware citizen was given time before a Delaware committee, or why he was given 250% more time than those affected by the law.


I absolutely agree that he should not be testifying at a state level, except for maybe in his home state. It happened there, not here. He can & did testify at the national level, I have no problem with that. It's his right. I don't agree with him getting more time than someone who lives in Delaware, however I think he gets a pass. His wife was shot in the head and it made headlines all over the nation. Even if he was told to keep it to 2min and just proceeded to say whatever he wanted, there's no way for an elected official to cut him off without seeming like a :censored:. If someone did, that would probably be reported on and these guys are in the business of being elected. I don't think any of them want to be known as the guy that cut off the man testifying for gun control whose wife was shot in the head. There's just no benefit in it for them, consequently he gets to take as much time as he wants. There's the way things should be, and the way things are. Unfortunately, the way things are seems to rarely benefit the pro-gun community. :banghead:

_________________
Steve , Clayton DE

Springfield XDS-9 in Crossbreed QwikClip


 Profile  
 Post subject: Re: Testifying against Gun Control on April 17th
PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:05 am 
Offline
Founding Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:13 pm
Posts: 4655
Location: Claymont.DE
fieldman wrote:
MrCoolDale wrote:
I do, however, have to wonder why a non-Delaware citizen was given time before a Delaware committee, or why he was given 250% more time than those affected by the law.


I absolutely agree that he should not be testifying at a state level, except for maybe in his home state. It happened there, not here. He can & did testify at the national level, I have no problem with that. It's his right. I don't agree with him getting more time than someone who lives in Delaware, however I think he gets a pass. His wife was shot in the head and it made headlines all over the nation. Even if he was told to keep it to 2min and just proceeded to say whatever he wanted, there's no way for an elected official to cut him off without seeming like a :censored:. If someone did, that would probably be reported on and these guys are in the business of being elected. I don't think any of them want to be known as the guy that cut off the man testifying for gun control whose wife was shot in the head. There's just no benefit in it for them, consequently he gets to take as much time as he wants. There's the way things should be, and the way things are. Unfortunately, the way things are seems to rarely benefit the pro-gun community. :banghead:



My problem was what was he doing here for this bill? Banning private sales had nothing to do with his situation since the guy that shot his wife had passed a background check to get his gun.

Maybe for limiting the capacity of magazines but not this issue.

_________________
"The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." - Robert A. Heinlein
What a shame that we have the two major political parties that believe the former.


 Profile  


Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 35 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron


phpBB skin developed by: John Olson
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group