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 Post subject: Re: detained, disarmed, asked to leave walmart and not retur
PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:08 pm 
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I know the process is straight foreward and i have not started yet as i am new to shooting and figure i want to be more comfortable before applying and spending all that cash.

Maybe its the good ole boy in my but the going to the sherrif and paying a fee after a background check seems reasonable.

I am fine with the classes.

I have issue with putting the ad in the paper ( i may do it if i want a ccdw), it is almost like they are trying to shame you into hot wanting one. ALso a good way for people who want to rob places to be aware that you have firearms in your home. Its not hard to follow someones routine a couple days and see when they are not at home.

also the five witnesses. I guess there is reason for that, but just seems like hoops


take a class, pay a fee and you should get one, until they people need to chill about oc. also as dave said its much easier to get to your weapon if its not concealled.

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I have issue with putting the ad in the paper ( i may do it if i want a ccdw), it is almost like they are trying to shame you into hot wanting one. ALso a good way for people who want to rob places to be aware that you have firearms in your home. Its not hard to follow someones routine a couple days and see when they are not at home.
I had issues about advertising the whole thing in the paper, too. Both for obvious privacy and security reasons, but if you want a CCDW, then you HAVE to do it.

I think the whole reason they make you do that is so it becomes a public notice so as to give the public an opportunity to speak up in opposition against you getting a CCDW. Not that it's the public's business whether I carry a concealed handgun, but I'm guessing it's for "public safety" and so the State can avoid any "See? He shot someone. Had I known you were giving him a CCDW I would have told you how evil he is" kinds of things.

If I knew a particular drug dealer was going for his CCDW, I'd want the opportunity to know what he's doing, and be able to tell someone why it's not a good idea. That would be a good thing. Of course, it works against you, too. I know my Ex-wife was interviewed at the AG's Office because I was trying to get my CCDW, and I'm sure she didn't have anything nice to say about me, either (regardless of whether it was fact or fiction).

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Years ago, my father worked at the old post office on Main street in Newark. As such, he knew most of the regular customers. When he was reading the public notices one day, he noticed the name of a customer that was applying for a CCDW. He immediately called the AG's office because he knew the guy had mental problems and was often a public problem. Needless to say no CCDW!

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That's one of the reasons why they have the publication requirement.... :D


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Good points dave.

Fairly thought i think having a ccdw would not worry about the ccdw and carry anyway.

and ex girlfriends, people you might have not gotten along with at work. I firmly believe its no ones business but mine if i was getting one, but i realize it is the law and the type of state we live in will probably not get more gun friendly.

Myopicvisionary,

that is a good point that your dad did, but in all fairness you do have a right to face your accuser so by the liberal stanards many gun control advocates use it could be argued ( playing devils advocate) that your father violated that mans civil rights as long as he could own a gun legally. I am not saying he was wrong as i dont know either of them just a point.

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I don't think it was a violation of the guy's rights as the notice was public and his violent behavior was very public.

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I agree with Myopic. The guy could have challenged the denial (file an appeal) as well and forced the issue.


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bear in mind i dont know the guy and i am sure his daddy had a reason and probably was right, but there are some vendictive ex co workers out there and ex wives or girlfriends andsuch. I am sure they dont let you know who made the complaint, but hey either way we have open carry now so its cool

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Quite a few years ago, there was a woman and a man who called in to "voice their concerns" on every notice that was run in the paper. I believe that in the end, once the state caught on to what was happening, they each were charged with quite a few counts of filing a false report or something similiar. Now the state does a little more investigating into these "John Doe shouldn't be able to carry" reports to flesh out if it's just a nutjob, jealous ex, etc.

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Quite a few years ago, there was a woman and a man who called in to "voice their concerns" on every notice that was run in the paper. I believe that in the end, once the state caught on to what was happening, they each were charged with quite a few counts of filing a false report or something similiar. Now the state does a little more investigating into these "John Doe shouldn't be able to carry" reports to flesh out if it's just a nutjob, jealous ex, etc.


And that's exactly what should happen. It provides potentially relevant information that deserves further investigation and inquiry. If unfounded, it should not be an issue. I do not believe such a complaint or report would be legally sufficicent to deny a CCDW permit unless the information was corroborated or verified, etc.


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